WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



BRANDED 4:46 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
My mistake. There was a massive cunt in our school but the Punk scene died so quickly he became a new wave cunt for a couple of years.

I heard a great description of youth movements. You never ever want to be what your older brother was.

BRANDED 4:41 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
We never really had any punks at our school as luckily we had no massive cunts.

Bungo 4:27 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
zebthecat 3:09 Fri Feb 23

Fair play. The Framed siblings just leapt to mind, especially as the role/instruments were the same.

Just thought, despite seeing them countless times, I haven't the slightest recollection of what they sounded like?

That can't be a good thing right?

Mad Dog 4:11 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Stock. Aitken and. Fucking waterman.

At the same time at end of primary and secondary I was getting into house and rave music. Hearing "your love" by prodigy made me fall in love with that side of music. However doubt my parents would have let a 13 year old fuck off all night to a rave. Especially as I looked about 9.

As it goes I'm currently at the gym where as usual I've got my prodigy mix on Spotify (but mainly thr 1st 2 albums. Fat of the land can fuxk off)

Cheezey Bell-End 3:29 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I was the ultimate square and rejected all of them despite being into music as a teen. I never got why Bowie was a god. And I hated The Jam and Adam and the Ants.
Now I look back and quite like a lot of what I thought was shit.

dm 3:25 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I'd say thrash metal as it completely distorted people's perceptions of what hard rock was about. Bands such as Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Judus Priest, Rush, Rainbow, UFO, Saxon, Aerosmith and even Iron Maiden were suddenly seen as 'old hat'.
And bands which to me just sounded like guitar thrashing and growling and devoid of melody came to the fore. Bands such as Sepultura, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeath etc

zebthecat 3:09 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
No they weren't Bungo
They were called Al an Jen.
Our band was called Malac's Cross embarassingly. I hope our publicity photos never made it online as they were excruciating.

Bungo 2:38 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
zebthecat 6:17 Thu Feb 22

Are the brother/sister you mentioned the ones who fronted 'Framed' around west London in the 90s?

I think he was called Will. Can't remember her name. He was definitely a left handed guitar player, and she was the singer.

We shared drummers at one point so used to see each other a lot.

chim chim cha boo 1:53 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I've always been a massive music fan from a very early age, even at infant school I loved Glam rock, Slade, The Sweet, Suzi Quattro Garry Glitter (who I'm pretty sure would have loved me right back), the Buzzing guitars, not knowing at that age whether the musicians were boys or girls... Great stuff I love to this day.

Then The Sex Pistols happened when I was about 11 and about as anti everything as I could possibly be. I hated the kids at school, the teachers and the whole fucking establishment in shitty East London which had been bombed to fuck and never repaired, everything dirty and brown and every other building in the East End a dump site surrounded by corrugated iron.

The only things I loved were punk rock and West Ham and I swear I only ever saw one other punk on the terraces, Lee from the band Eraserhead. Usually we'd get into tear-ups in the street and at gigs with skins but the only time they would leave you alone was at UP, and you have to remember we had a big skinhead supporting element and National Front stalls in Priory Road where I ended up living.

So in the late seventies and early eighties there was a lot to cringe about. Curtain, mullet and permed hair, Farah flairs, Sergio Taccini tracksuits, shell suits 'oops, upside your head' types, fucking disco which I hated with a vengeance (the ONLY exception being 'I feel love' by Donna Summer). In fact I was a right belligerent bastard once I worked out me and everyone around me were considered the dregs of society, destined for either the Army (if you were a good runner) or the Tate And Lyle factory in Silvertown.

So I seem as usual to have gone a bit off tangent but I am going to say Disco with it's stupid dancing, big hair and roller skates.

zebthecat 1:34 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Punk was what made me want to play music.
I was 12 and at a friend's house and his older brother played New Rose to us and I was instantly hooked.
Saved up my pocket money and paper round pay for Damned Damned Damned and other record leading, eventually, to getting the cheapest and shittiest bass on the planet and an amp kit.
That eventually lead to a few decades of fun making loud music which I still do now and then.

Side of Ham 1:10 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Pickle your post trying to explain your take on Punk was like Walter the Wimp trying to explain his take on Dennis’s the Menace…..WHOOSH…..

Bungo 12:48 Fri Feb 23
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Alfs 4:01 Fri Feb 23

I remember him fronting The Crystal Maze for a while. He didn't look too well then. Presumably he didn't present it 100% clean?

Hammer and Pickle 12:04 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Punk is an interesting one. Didn’t really notice it at first as a primary school kid in Surrey - everybody was farmers, army or ex army if they weren’t hippies and intellectual types. Maybe the odd gypsy family.

Then we moved to London and there they were in all their early-punk splendour - not so much around Deptford, east Greenwich and Lewisham, which were working class and Afro Caribbean, but Blackheath Village, old Greenwich and of course Central London. First contact would have been around Ladbroke Grove and Camden, where we briefly rented flats, and I was of course impressed by the hair, the clothes and most of all the apparent raw tribalism. Punk seemed spontaneous, authentic, complete with its codes and practices and, being part of a sub-culture myself, I found that interesting at least.

It was only later I learned about McLaren and Westwood and how it was so much a commercial project. A couple of visits up to Carnaby Street once me and some other kids got up to speed with the public transport took the mystique out of punk for me a bit. Also the music coming out of the two-tone scene, everything from ska to Atlantic soul just sort of buried punk, especially when it went totally tits-up with Adam Ant…

Alfs 6:16 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Cheers for that, Percy. Just watched it, with a tad of melancholy. The last time I saw him was when we met for a pint before he performed 'Swords' at the Marquee, in Soho.

That was pretty intense, with the pogo-ing, and beer being thrown all over the place. I felt well out of place.

percyd 4:28 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Alfs 4:01 Fri Feb 23

He popped up on the Chas Hodges Memorial concert (it's on youtube).

Alfs 4:01 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I became good mates with a bloke called Edward Tudor Pole who I met on a drama course in my teens. I went to stay with him in London and he'd got involved with some bloke called Malcolm, and a band he managed, who he'd made a single with, called 'Who Killed Bambi', and now called himself Ten Pole Tudor.

Being from a seaside town in Wales, I'd never seen a punk rocker before, and even though the band seemed like a decent lot, apart from one obnoxious arsehole, I thought that they looked ridiculous. And their songs were incoherent and shit. They were called The Sex Pistols.

Eddie got into heroin, and he turned from one of the most wonderful people you could ever be in the company of, to a right twat. We fell out over that, and our friendship ended.

I hated their 'music' for years, and then, in my 50s, revisited it, and kind of 'got it'.

The arsehole was Sid, but in retrospect, he was obviously a very troubled young man with a mental health problem.

WHU(Exeter) 12:55 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Deely boppers.

They would never have gone with my punk orange hair.

zebthecat 6:17 Thu Feb 22
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
factory seconds 5:32 Thu Feb 22

Oh God that was embarassing.
I was in a hair metal band for about a year although most of the material was wasn't really hair metal at all. It was a unique band for for me as we were a six piece and had 50/50 male/female line with drums, bass (me), and lead guitar male and keyboards, rhythm guitar and lead vocals female.
The singer and lead guitarist were sister and brother and half the set were Doom Metal songs lifted from a band that the lead guitarist and singer's dad had been in around the mid 70s. The rest was a mix of power ballads and Swords and Sourcery proggy stuff written by the siblings. We did quite a lot gigs of gigs and they were fun as it was difficult to play (the guitarist composed the bass parts on guitar with little regard to whether they were actually playable on a bass) and the three women and I sung four part harmonies over most of the choruses.
I was fired (the only band I've been fired from) just before the genre's demise because I was in another band and had to skip a rehearsal because I had gig with other band on the same night.
Did play a couple of gigs with the resurrected Doom band a few years later though - that was a weird phone call I wasn't expecting,

Bungo 5:45 Thu Feb 22
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
factory seconds 5:32 Thu Feb 22

That's pretty much what I remember. Thankfully my band was never successful enough to be affected in the way the big bands were.

Overnight all the fun bands disappeared to be replaced by misearable oiks who just didn't look or behave like rock stars.

Talking of Warrant, I think their Cherry Pie video sums up everything that was great/terrible about that era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjyZKfdwlng

factory seconds 5:32 Thu Feb 22
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
there's a great film in there somewhere about the downfall of hair metal and how quickly it happened. almost overnight you went from being seen as some rock deity if you preened around in leopard skin leggings shrieking like you've just trapped your bollocks in a card door, to being seen as a mincing joke as all the birds previously begging for your carnal services have now moved onto some mopey cunt dressed like he fell out of a charity shop.

i remember hearing an interview with dee snider of twisted sister infamy talking about how a year or two after they were one of the biggest names in the business he was working as a receptionist for some rundown office and kept having to deny the he was the guy they all thought he looked like. or the bloke from warrant who went to his agency to negociate their new contract deal only to notice the giant mural of them they had behind the front desk last time he was in had been replaced with alice in chains, and all management wanted to talk about was if they could start wearing plaid.

Bungo 5:02 Thu Feb 22
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Iron Duke 4:33 Thu Feb 22

It was TOTALLY naff.

That's why we loved it.😁

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